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May 30, 2008

McErlain: Milbury simply embarrassing

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Instead, keep your eyes on Mike Milbury, who sends things off the rails. Click Click here to watch.

Milbury is a bit more than over the top when he throws his arm around Ovechkin's shoulder like he's a buddy and tells him to get a haircut. Ovechkin is 22 and the league's presumptive MVP. He deserves not to be treated like a 16-year-old. When you look at it that way, it can't be surprising that Ovechkin -- who got off a zinger with his crack about Milbury being a cat -- said nothing interesting.

It was a bad interview. Worse, there's proof that it is possible to have fun with an Ovechkin interview -- without it being insulting.

Take a look at this clip from Canadian television, in which Michael Landsberg finds a different way to elicit funny and illuminating comments from Ovechkin. He even gave Landsberg a prediction, something he refused to give Neumeier and Milbury.

Eric's completely right here, and it's embarassing. But it's also part of a larger issue with major US media, especially the "talking heads" and "writing heads" who are paid to sound important: trying to be part of the story instead of letting the story develop. Not that canadian media is immune to this, not by a long shot.

it's really more of the "reporter" mentality compared to the "commentator" mentality. You see LOTS of this in the toronto media, for instance, among the experts and pundits who trip over each other to be first and most on any given piece of information they consider intersting. And yes, there are guys on CBC just as guilty of this, starting with Ron MacLean and his baiting of the league and Bettman on regular occasions. And his intermission cohort, oh, whatever his name is.

hell, I had great hopes that they were going to upgrade the quality of the 2nd intermission this season, but look how quickly Al Strachan and the rumormongering returned instead of studied discussion. because there's a large segment of the audience that drools over that stuff. Which is fine. It's just not what I want.

(nor are bloggers immune to this. Look at who some of the bloggers being moved into larger-visibility situations -- Eklund, or dear Greg, the new Puck Daddy at yahoo. Greg's not exactly spending his time analyzing gap distances in the 1-2-2 forecheck -- he's doing a good job of being hockey's Mike Arrington, flaws and all. Which works, and I'm not complaining. but me, I'd rather be analyzing the gap distances of a 1-2-2 forecheck....)

So it's really not about US or Canada, or TV/print. or old media vs. bloggers. it's really about good work vs. bad work. and frankly, Milbury has a name, but he rarely, if ever, does good work on TV. I know he's not high on my list of names I'll hire when I take over CBC sports...


December 12, 2007

How to Properly Bash Hockey

A Handy Guide for Beginners: How to Properly Bash Hockey - FanHouse - AOL Sports Blog:

I, for one, am sick and tired of people throwing baseless and fact less claims at the sport of hockey. I have had enough with people making the same old jokes over and over. It's high time that everyone realized there are nice, cordial ways of making fun of hockey as opposed to the merciless, mind-numbing bashing that goes on. It is seriously lacking in the creativity that is at the heart and soul of any entertaining hack job. In the latest installment of Hockey Guides for Beginners, I'm going to try and put a few areas of hockey bashing to bed once and for all.

(yeah, what he said)

November 17, 2007

bloggers vs. journalists... a reasoned view

Red Wings Corner: Blogs are fine by me:

My peers look at bloggers as non-journalists … and believe it or not, that's a slam. They point out that very few bloggers have primary information, instead being so removed from the dressing room that they act as collection houses of information first posted by beat reporters. Commentary thus becomes the only unique part of the blog. My beat-writer peers fear that their blogs will have fewer hits (yes, we speak the language) because that information can be found on other sites.

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There's lots of good stuff there and lots of garbage, kind of like movies or TV shows or newspapers.

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And blogs do offer commentary and that's a good thing too. I've read dozens of newspaper columns this year about the Red Wings from columnists who haven't been to many -- if any -- of the games. I'm not sure what the difference is.

A very nice, reasoned view of the whole "hockey blogger vs. journalist" thing.

Which is really overblown. I have some sympathy for the newspaper folks, it's not a fun time in that industry, and I can understand why they might see bloggers as "the problem" and lash out, but in reality, that problem has been affecting the industry for 40+ years as readership slumps and newspapers fold or merge (or merge AND fold; for more on that, see some of my previous writing on this, like San Francisco Chronicle layoffs).

Bruce makes a point I've tried to make before: very little of what bloggers do is "journalism". It's commentary. It's not "citizens journalism", it's an online op-ed page -- it's not creating the story or doing the research, it's commenting on it.

Which isn't bad. as Bruce also points out (and which many on the newspaper side tend to ignore), there's a lot of that commentary going on in newspapers, too. There are beat guys in the sports page who basically live with the team during the season, and then there are the columnists and editors, who are no closer to actually being with the team than the bloggers are -- hey, there are some here in San jose I'd love to see show up in the arena as often as they talk sharks, for instance...

Now, hopefully at some point some bloggers will be able to create an income stream from taking a team beat, and the teams will support that with access and information. Until then, that's the domain of the printed publications, and some papers are trying to find a way to merge the old and the new and make this viable for THEM -- see, for instance, the work Dave Pollack is doing with the mercury news as beat guy this year. He's been charged not just with being the beat guy, but reinventing what that means in this new, online&print world, and doing some nice things).

Frankly? we need to make sure that the on-the-ground journalism survives this transition and gets funded properly, because that original work is something most bloggers can't (and won't) do -- whether that's the beat guy at the morning skate every morning or the reporter going to school board meetings and digging into city council expense reports.

But commentary? There are any number of bloggers doing better work on the Sharks than the so-called "professional" columnists here in the area. No wonder some folks "in the industry" feel threatened, that's true in most markets, and if there's a part of the newspaper industry at risk in the NEXT wave of migration to the net, it's the people who comment on the news as opposed to the ones actually reporting it... (and of course the ones most likely bitching about bloggers are the columnists, because beat guys don't editorialize like that -- because that's not journalism.... it's commentary, and that's not their role on the team...)

Many of those bitching about the bloggers DESERVE to be worried, you know? Maybe they should go back to covering a beat somewhere, and really get back to the roots of their journalism....

(hat tip, kukla)

October 18, 2007

Ross McKeon returns -- at Yahoo!


Good news for Sharks fans -- Ross McKeon, formerly of the SF Chronicle, has resurfaced and is writing about hockey again. He's come on board to do a regular column for Yahoo.

Welcome back to the real world, Ross!

October 03, 2007

Off Wing Opinion: Thanks ...

Off Wing Opinion: Thanks ...:

To Sports Business Daily for naming Off Wing #1 in its inaugural listing of top NHL blogs.

Congrats to the rest of the blogs named, all of them run by top notch folk:

1. Off Wing Opinion
2. James Mirtle
3. The Pens Blog
4. The Battle of California
5. Barry Melrose Rocks
6. BfloBlog.com
7. Waiting For Stanley
8. Battle of Alberta
9. Japers' Rink
10. Behind the Jersey

Hey, congrats to Eric for leading the pack. Just remember, though, the problems of creating a dynasty. There's some pretty good blogs chasing you, Eric. Don't get cocky! (grin)

If you're reading this blog, and there are blogs on this list you are NOT reading, you should give them at least a courtesy visit. there's some great hockey content out there these days.

August 15, 2007

Shoalts, Simmons and Eklund

Tom Benjamin's NHL Weblog: Shoalts, Simmons and Eklund:

On a related note, Greg Wyshynyski has a nice post up about everybody's least favourite hockey reporter, Eklund. I ignored Eklund when he first appeared in the blogosphere because I didn't think he was a blogger, because I thought he made shit up, and because I hoped that if we all ignored him, he would go away. I still don't see him as a blogger, I think he still makes shit up, but he hasn't been ignored and he has not gone away. Far from it.

He's become very nearly mainstream because he's not a blogger. He breaks news just like Steve Simmons breaks news and just like David Shoalts breaks news. His track record is far worse, of course, but then again, he makes no bones about that he reports rumours, not fact. Eklund is not a blogger because bloggers don't break stories whether they are real or imagined. He is a hockey reporter. His numerous mistakes do not damage the credibility of bloggers - they damage the credibility of the hockey media.

No more than Al Strachan did -- and face it, Eklund is moving into the ecological niche that Strachan owned for years. the only difference is that Strachan had a newspaper and the CBC to posture from, and Eklund created his own online universe to posture from. Otherwise, they've basically twins.

And that's the last you'll likely hear about either here. The blogosphere needs to get over Eklund and stop whining about him. He's not going away, and the best thing you can do if you don't like him is ignore him. Just hope he isn't added to CBC's hot stove to spice it up. It's over. Move on. Complaining about him won't do anything but give him visibility....

August 07, 2007

Is There A Future For Newspaper Sportswriting?

Off Wing Opinion: Is There A Future For Newspaper Sportswriting?:

Just what sort of future is there in the world for a full-time newspaper reporter?

I don't think it's an idle question. The newspaper business, though it is trying gamely to adjust to the new realities of online distribution, is still clearly struggling. But while adjusting to a tectonic shift in information technology is one thing, dealing with tens of thousands of new competitors that have collectively blown a hole in your business model is quite another.

There is a future -- it just doesn't look like the past, and it's going to be painful for the old style businesses, much in the way iTunes has been painful for places like Tower Records, Amazon and Barnes&Noble has been painiful to non-chain bookstores, McDonalds was painful for the mom and pop restaurant, and the automobile was painful for buggy whip manufacturers.

The good will adapt and survive, the great will thrive, and the rest will fade away and complain that it wasn't fair, as if they had some god-given right to succeed. This isn't new -- the only real constant is change, and these kind of market upheavals are constant through our history. heck, think about it; when I was growing up, a city like Los Angeles had dozens of radio stations and each one had its own staff of announcers and disk jockeys; today, it seems half the stations are collectively owned by four companies (Clear Channel, et al) -- and they all feed programming down our throats from central locations. Or 25 years ago, think how many department store chains there were, and how they were regionalized with merchandise to handle local needs and interest. Now? It's Macy's -- and it's a single national product line with national buyers, as if the winter clothes needed in Phoenix and Minneapolis were the same.

It seems to me that what used to be a "newspaper" is transmogrifying into three separate components -- components which overlap and with blurred boundaries, since life's never that easy.

One is the "national" aspect of news: Reuters, AP, Getty Photos. Many newspapers were, in fact, little more than places that took the national syndicated stuff and wrapped ads around it and printed it; in the day of the internet with direct access to the feeds, who needs that? To the degree that a news outet was merely a local redistibution of a national service; we're not going to miss those.

What's left? local coverage. Boring stuff like School boards, fun stuff like hockey games, scary stuff like car crashes and bridge failures.

Also, commentary. contrary to popular belief, little of what the bloggers do is "citizen journalism" -- it's "citizen commentary". It's not reporting, it's op-ed. That's not putting it down, either, but it's calling it what it is. That's starting to change somewhat as bloggers get into press boxes and start doing more reporting -- but most of the writing is still oriented towards commentary over, say, a beat writer. And so much of blogging is actually spawned by some newspaper or newswire story that we all comment on and build from; we can't kill the newspapers too fast, they're our primary source of material...

The trick is how to pay for the local stuff and the editorializing. We're figuring that out, and more and more bloggers are starting to earn decent income at doing it -- it's just not a financial model that newspapers use, or one they're easily able to map into. The change is scary, and it's going to leave a lot of corpses along the roadside.

I think the easy answer (and a deadly one) for newspapers is to cut costs by cutting the newsroom -- you see layoffs happening all around the industry, including Vic Chi at the Mercury News here recently. This unfortunately leads in the wrong direction, towards a greater reliance on newswire, and frankly, we're not very far from where Reuters might not WANT to resell its material to a newspaper, because it's more profitable to cut out the middleman and sell that feed directly.

A local newsroom has two markets: the local population and the national newswires. Reuters isn't going to keep a newsroom everywhere, it's going to buy local content that works for the larger audience. That's one potential revenue stream.

Then you need to build revenue off the local readers. That is, if you think about it, exactly what bloggers have been experimenting with and figuring out how to do. The successful newspapers will be the ones most able to shed the old-style habits and costs and move to a streamlined, online-oriented model. The NY Times paywall experiment failed, but there's a huge market in local advertising that nobody's quite figured out how to monetize; Craigslist took over classified, but the local furniture store? Still up for grabs. Newspapers need to figure out how to grab it before someone else does.

What you end up with is going to look a lot like a set of blogs, little like a newspaper; newspapers need to shed the ink and paper mentailty, or soeone will do it for them. I think we're fairly close to online groups buying newspapers for the name and branding in places where the papers can't adapt. We're not far from the first newspapers going fully electronic, either. there have been rumors in Seattle, for instance.

For someone going into journalism? I'd say -- DON'T -- unless you're specifically going into this new journalism and willing to buy into the pain of figuring this out the hard way. it's not going to be a fun time.

But for sportswriting? and hockey? Massive opportunity -- if they embrace the change instead of fight it. One immediate change I think you'll see is that there will be fewer travelling beat writers -- coverage will be by the "home" writers, not the "team" writers. It's hard to justify the cost of dedicating a writer full-time and putting them on the road half of the time. We've been seeing that with reduced attendance at playoffs, for instance. This isn't a bad thing, ti's an aspect of the changing face of reporting -- it's just different from what we're used to.

Frankly? with a good set of bloggers in every hockey town, working with various national organizations to distribute the writing, I think you'd get a lot better perspective and information than you get today by just reading a local beat guy or two and whoever's writing on espn.com from a national perspective (especially out here on the west coast, where I find most of the national guys don't know and don't much care....)

There are a lot of challenges here -- but even more opportunity. The question is really going to be who fights that changes (and ultimately loses) and who embraces it and figures out how to win with it. The one guarantee is that it's going to be stressful for all involved while this shakes out....

July 19, 2007

Hockey Night in Canada inks Cole, Neale

Hockey Night in Canada inks Cole, Neale:

Hall of Fame play-by-play commentator Bob Cole and analyst Harry Neale will be back on Hockey Night in Canada next season.

CBC Sports confirmed Thursday that both agreed to two-year contracts, extending a partnership which began in 1985.

No offense intended to either man, but -- I really was hoping they would both realize it was time to ride off into the sunset. Bob Cole is rapidly approaching Harry-Carey-land, and that's too bad.

This is not going to make me want to watch Hockey Night in Canada MORE.

July 01, 2007

The Joy that is NHL Free Agent Day

The free agents signings appear to be following the same script that the Oscar presentations use--give out a moderately big award right up front, and then hand out all the "best costuming" and "best original song" awards before they finally get to the "Best Movie" at the tail end of the show.

TSN probably should have thought about that....

That said, it was amusing to watch TSN dance on the hot coals for hours. I'm sure they were expecting something to happen over two hours. They'd used up all of their "worst case scenario" expository dialogue, "who would you put in the Hall of Fame" questions, and Doug MacLean's repeated entreaties to have someone, anyone, sign with the Columbus Blue Jackets. Watching MacLean alternately jump and dump on Pierre McGuire made the content-free minutes go by a lot faster. 

Maybe next time MacLean can take on Dave "I didn't have to be on camera the whole three hours--nyah-nyah!" Hodge.  Now, that's entertainment!

June 17, 2007

Is Brett Hull "One and Done" at NBC? - Sports Blog - The FanHouse

Is Brett Hull "One and Done" at NBC? - Sports Blog - The FanHouse:

The Golden Brett's stint as "the American Don Cherry" may be over after just one season.

And there was much rejoicing.